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Published:6/10/2009 11:30:39 AM   
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6/11/2009 What needs to be done is make the freedmen take a dna. If they show cherokee blood, then let them in. More indians more government funding, But if the Freedmen get to be cherokee with out the dna testing then they will need to let back in all the wives and husbands that no indian but that are married to CHerokee Indians.
biglh60
 

6/12/2009 Everyone who is a Cherokee Nation tribal member and has a CDIB card had to prove Cherokee blood ties. This is only fair for everyone. Most Freedmen can probably prove Cherokee blood ties if they bothered to do the research. I'm sure there was some hanky-panky or interracial marriage between the Cherokee owners and the Freedmen. It's funny how every White you talk to has a full-blood Indian princess for an ancestor. Why are the Freedmen so hesitant to find out. Our Cherokee Nation has a right to set standards and requirements for all who wish to be members.
vlhanna
 

6/12/2009 I wonder what the esteemed congresswoman's position would be if the Cherokee Nation filed suit over the many times the US government has ignored the 1866 treaty obligations. Personally I agree with biglh60 regarding DNA testing. We,the Cherokee, are already much more liberal in our acceptance of tribal members than most other tribes. I do not doubt that many disenfranchised freedmen will trace to some Cherokee ancestry. However, wouldn't that already allow them onto the tribal roles?
dscraper
 

6/12/2009 This reinvigorated effort by Watson sounds an awful lot like she thinks she has the ear of Eric Holder Attorney General, and the support of might we say "10 black co-sponsers" Along with a Black president. This thing is starting to smell.
bigbyone
 

6/12/2009 What with the California Congress people?? Nancy can't remember things either.
wolfbay103
 

6/13/2009 I believe that Watson is racist and would better serve her people in California with the business that is important to them, like illegal maliens, etc. She has no business trying to tell the CN what she believes to be the law, any more than telling Mexico how much income tax to impose on their citizens. Maybe Watson and her lobby partners should pool their money and match what the CN has provided to non-indians in the Oklahoma area.
robtdoe
 

6/13/2009 Isn't what Ms. Watson doing a form of blackmail?(you do what I want or you lose your funding) And that is suppose to be against the law. If she is squealing about this being a broken treaty, why doesn't she bring up all the other treaties that the US broke....maybe the Cherokee should say you give us back or land or ELSE....makes about as much sense as what she is saying.... Why aren't the Freedman who have Cherokee blood proving their ancestry to the Dawes Roll, such as every other Cherokee has had to do. I am sure that they would be welcomed into the tribe. Maybe Ms. Watson time would be better spent helping the people prove their heritage. Maybe she leave her Calif home and come live among the Cherokee...know what is happening before trying to pass laws from Calif. And while she is trying to get her law passed, why don't she include the men and women that married into the Cherokee tribe? I just think she needs to get a life
glswings
 

6/13/2009 OK correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it the government who forced the Cherokee Nation to make the Freedmen part of the tribe to begin with?? I agree with the fact that if Cherokee's are supposed to be able to prove their heritage to be on the tribal role, why is this different. I also agree that more than likely, a large number of freedmen are descendants, just because of their association. However, I think as others have said before me, there cannot be two sets of rules, based on the color of your skin. I voted for Obama, and am a democrat. I don't believe their is anything afoot with regard to that. However, why does this person keep bringing this up. Were we the only tribe that was forced to place non-native folks on the rolls when the Dawes happened?? If not, then why are those not being approached?? Thanks, jes
jesrountree
 

6/14/2009 I pray that ALL CHEROKEE PEOPLE be united and recognized as one people, even those NOT on the Dawes, like Chief John Bowels who took his people to Texas. Perhaps the politics should step aside and think of the needs of the people. More people to numerate, more income for the CNO...
cherokeeladyaz2
 

6/15/2009 I too agree with BIGlh60 about the DNA testing. I mean, I'm sure there are people out there that can't prove they have Cherokee bloodlines based solely on the Dawes Records, but thru DNA testing, they can prove that...Just an option...I think the more people on our side, the more federal monies are available to us....what do you think of this idea?
dea_and_troywoodward
 

6/15/2009 Osiyo My friends, the CNO has missed the path and is headed for yet further destruction if it does not change and face the truth. African blood runs deep in many Cherokee and there would be no Cherokee tribe without their work. Rise above your prejudice by embracing an honest past and help create a new future for all that doesn't judge by skin color but instead seeks opportunity for all natives.
danmaloney
 

6/15/2009 Osiyo, I do not believe that as of yet there is a definitive genetic marker for Cherokee ancestry. In fact there are only about 20 tribes where such a marker does exit and most of those are in south american native groups. Furthermore the cherokee have had a precontact tradition of accepting/acquiring mates from other tribes as well as from european stock post contact. Take for example John Ross... this is a difficult issue with no simple solution. But I do believe that someone who has been living cherokee and whose parents and their parents and their parents..have been living cherokee..perhaps even made the miserable trip on the trail where they cried ...are cherokee...even if their skin is black or their hair is blond. just my opinion. Wado
Tlegu
 

6/16/2009 I feel Watson it just using this issue to get attention and make a name for herself. Does she truly care about the freedman? or is this just an excuse for her to cut CN funds? if not the freedman she would try to use another excuse.
reginabrady
 

6/16/2009 Watsopn has absolutely no idea about what she is doing,she's just buying more black votes with welfare,now this don't make any sense because she's in California! However she's getting a big pat on the back from the NAACP! It's just another case of a black bigot,using racism(hers)to garner votes and support..This must be settled in the courts!If this keeps up,the laws of this country will mean less than nothing,these people are bullies intent on becoming dictators,little by little everybody's will be eroded,after all Democrats are just Communists!
bendennis2003
 

6/26/2009 My mom was half-cherokee, and my dad was a descendant of the chickasaw tribe. I never liked discrimination in any form or fashion! I remember going to school and thats where I first learned about differences in colors of skin and how people treated people that were darker than other people. My fathers family owned the Colberts Ferry that crossed the Red River a long time ago. They had a large farm and it is written in books that they owned slaves. One of the descendants became Governor of Oklahoma and he was named Winchester Colbert and he was the son of Benjamin Franklin Colbert. He was mixed-blood, yet he was considered as much a part of the Tribe as anyone. He was educated and held in high esteem. My mother taught me that it was a sign of ignorance when people discriminated against people for the color of their skin and that we should feel sorry for them. I was adopted at birth and I am full-blood and believe once an Indian always an Indian...
cmodom
 

7/2/2009 biglh60 and dscraper: Cherokee enrollment requires proof of Dawes registration. DNA testing of Cherokee blood, genealogy, or ancestry is irrelevant. There are plenty of Cherokee that dispersed around the Trail of Tears, setting up homesteads in Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas that can prove with DNA their genealogy, but these people remain unrecognized and disenfranchised by their own Cherokee family in Oklahoma because they did not register on the Dawes. The Dawes Roll was an Anglo idea and was administered by the same government that subjected the Cherokee to the Trail of Tears, and certainly doesn't include all of the Cherokee who suffered being ousted from their homeland.
swmspam
 

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